Do we know for certain Gardner was a vice admiral? -- Captain MKB 19:25, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Memory Alpha lists him as an admiral, and his mirror universe counterpart was a fleet admiral. His rank should be admiral, not vice admiral. --Columbia clipper 19:35, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

We do not know the specific grade of admiral at all -- which means we probably shouldn't insert an insignia just yet. -- Captain MKB 19:39, November 30, 2009 (UTC)