Talk:Wales
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The United Kingdom was still in existence in the 2150s, at least. Malcolm Reed's parents wanted him to join the Royal Navy instead of Starfleet. And since the United States of America continued to exist well into the late 24th century, one can assume that the UK did as well. Just not as much beyond their local authority, much like states in the US today. --TimPendragon 07:27, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- This is a sensitive one. I don't think, failing a reference, we can extrapolate the existence of the UK beyond the mid-21st century. We have a reference for Ireland being united in 2026, and certainly the political situation leading to that would also tend towards independence for both Wales and Scotland - much as is starting to happen in the real timeline already. Things like the Royal Navy, the monarchy and so on are all *English* institutions which would remain with England in the event of independence - Malcolm is certainly English! I suppose a parallel might be if we had an article for Kurdistan - I wouldn't feel safe describing it only as a geographical area that was part of Iraq, Iran and Turkey given the great likelihood of changes in the near future. As I understand it, the US is generally more homogeneous than the UK and thus more likely to continue to exist as a ceremonial entity, with states having cultural differences more like the (often very pronounced) differences between counties in the UK - but please correct me if I'm wrong on this as I have no wish to give offence. Vashti 12:33, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- Irish Reunification notwithstanding, we have absolutely no reason to assume that the UK did cease to exist. Just because they left the six counties (assuming that's what the Reunifaction entailed) doesn't mean that the UK disolved entirely. Furthermore, don't equate the situation with Wales and Scotland to that of Ireland under English rule. There are some similar aspects, yes, but the result and the severity are worlds apart. I was born in Belfast, lived in the Republic and Scotland, and grew up on both sides of the Atlantic. --TimPendragon 18:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- Equally, we have no reason to assume that it continued to exist. At present, the article makes no assertion either way, which I feel is appropriate for something we have no information on. Vashti 03:03, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- Irish Reunification notwithstanding, we have absolutely no reason to assume that the UK did cease to exist. Just because they left the six counties (assuming that's what the Reunifaction entailed) doesn't mean that the UK disolved entirely. Furthermore, don't equate the situation with Wales and Scotland to that of Ireland under English rule. There are some similar aspects, yes, but the result and the severity are worlds apart. I was born in Belfast, lived in the Republic and Scotland, and grew up on both sides of the Atlantic. --TimPendragon 18:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
