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Manually added subcats & other formatting? Edit

Hi, I just wanted to ask about a couple of the edits you've made after mine to check my understanding (as I'm not au fait with all the technical jiggery-pokery). The first is to the file:spacedock starship (2285).jpg image - Your edit summary states "please dont override by manually adding subcategories", but I don't really understand what this means as there doesn't appear to be any difference to the end result, so I'm hoping you can put me right? The second is that I don't know what you mean by "wtf formatting rly?" in the USS Ephrata edit summary. What are "wtf" and "rly"? I mean, I can see the changes that you've made, but just don't understand the summary. I'd never make it in Starfleet engineering ;) - Cyfa (talk) 22:48, December 29, 2013 (UTC)

There should be a clearer policy page to explain these issues but we've never really had time to create one i think.
Symbols in sidebar tables should be scaled to bout 40 pixels tall and all other images should be precisely 220px wide. i'm not sure why, but many users create articles with larger symbols and they choose other random sizes for photo images. we've discussed this before and previously decided that symbols should be small enough to line up several in a row (and be of approximate matched heights), and the images should be 220px.
Categories should use the DEFAULTSORT tag to set up category sorts as a default. that is why it is the default. other alphabetization schemes have been used or in absense of a sort tag, categories are individually sorted, which is not preferable.
the {{imagesource}} tag has "subcat=" fields to create custom categorizations in subcategories of Memory Alpha images. This is the only way people should create custom categories. people should NOT be manually adding "Memory Alpha images (Xxxxxxx)" categories - because the "imagesource" tag will create a duplicate categorization unless you fill in the field. so don't manually add those image categories. please.
furthermore, the correct way to add an image is with the prefix "file:" ... NOT the prefix "image:"... it almost seems like some users are using some sort of old template or are copy pasting from an old article made before the site started using formatting. -- Captain MKB 23:02, December 29, 2013 (UTC)
Great, thanks. I think I understand most of it now. I'd read somewhere that sidebar images should be 220px wide, but hadn't seen anything about the size of symbols, so I'll go with the 40px from now on (although, personally I think they look too small unless there're more than four in a row).
I get the DEFAULTSORT tag and have been using that where necessary, and will use the "subcat=" field for images now instead of the MA image cats (even though I still don't really understand the duplicate categorisation thingy).
Thanks for clearing this and that lowercase stuff up, although I'm still none the wiser about "wtf" and "rly". Unless "wtf" means what I think it does, in which case, I hope you have a less frustrating day today than yesterday. -- Cyfa (talk) 09:49, December 30, 2013 (UTC)
I appreciate your willingness to decrease frustration. i have explained these things to others who still have yet to respond, over periods of years, but still contribute without caring about the issues that were communicated. it adds up and sorry if you took the brunt of it.
whenever you use the {{imagesource}} tag, it adds a category automatically. if you do not specify a subcategory, it will just add the base category for images. if you manually add a category, the base category still comes with the imagesource tag, and we have too many categories. the base category shouldnt be filled with images that are already in subcategories, manually added or not -- Captain MKB 05:27, December 31, 2013 (UTC)


I thought i had been leaving the appropriate information on the images i've uploaded. If i've been forgetting something tell me what it is.--CC-1990 (talk) 18:22, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

Immediate deletionsEdit

You just deleted my page, with no warning? Not cool. -- unsigned

Very cool. -- Captain MKB 23:58, March 25, 2014 (UTC)

B.G. Robinson imageEdit

BG Robinson

My image


Your image

Whats wrong with the B.G. Robinson.jpg image?. The other image shows her face sideways. I don't see the problem. Its the same image they use on Memory Alpha. Wait, you just don't like the image. I think my image is better than the other one. Maybe we should vote on it.--TyphussJediVader (talk) 12:34, March 25, 2014 (UTC)

She has silly expression on her face. I'd rather an image with a neutral expression.
And you certainly need to stop replacing good images for no reason -- i have warned you about this already - Captain MKB 23:57, March 25, 2014 (UTC)

Why didn't you say that in the summary when you took out the image, i didn't know you had a problem with the image.--TyphussJediVader (talk) 00:07, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

You've made a habit of ignoring everything i have tried to communicate to you ... for years! how was i supposed to know you were going to pick today to start listening? -- Captain MKB 00:08, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

U.S.S. Virginia pageEdit

Sir I created a page after a ship I designed myself. I nabbed it after a cruiser my father served on to honor him and now they are trying to delete my page. I am a member of Redemption Fleet an IMVU roleplay group and we wish to share our stories and ideas. Please help me.

CptCassidyJohnson (talk) 14:48, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

Hi CapitanMike, thanks for the message** I've been a fan of the sight of a long time and just wonted to give something back. At the moment I'm just getting to know how to use the sight. I'm shore that I will have a few questions and will need some help from time to time. Many thank** Jethro :)

Aestes27 is still at it Edit

Heads-up in case you hadn't seen it yet. No sooner did the lock of the Vesta-class page expire than Aestes27 went right back in and futzed with it again. --StarSword (talk) 20:17, April 20, 2014 (UTC)

He's come back and is up to his old tricks. See Intrepid-class. I've already reverted him. --StarSword (talk) 20:13, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

URL for yaEdit

Try out :) talk2ty 03:15, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

Didn't Martok die only in the Online timeline? If so, shouldn't we specify that on his page's template?--DarthKenny (talk) 04:04, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

STO 2393 is the only timeline we know aboutt in 2393. since it is the only 2393 timeline, what are we specifying? we specify 'sources' here, not 'timelines' - Captain MKB 11:55, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

Head's up: unreg'd IP impersonating a moderator Edit

Special:Contributions/ needs an IP ban. On some sort of anti-STO crusade on the forum and threatening people with bans. --StarSword (talk) 03:00, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Looks like Special:Contributions/ needs the boot as well. --Kevin W.Talk to me 04:20, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
Please notice the times on those. Well over a year ago. -- sulfur (talk) 12:38, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
Jesus... that's what I get for looking at two separate users' contributions at the same time. I got the dates mixed up. Whoops. --Kevin W.Talk to me 06:21, August 5, 2014 (UTC)

Categories Edit

Thanks for the heads-up regarding categories. My apologies about forgetting about them. Can I ask if there are any rules about what categories to apply? Merci! --Igorlex (talk) 16:08, August 3, 2014 (UTC)

Igorlex, please use your powers of observation to see the categories added to the articles you created, as myself and other editors did the work of adding those for you. in general, a person should be categorized by their species, date of birth/death if known, their allegiance to any organization, their occupation, rank or title. in particular, starfleet persons should have categories for their rank, specialty AND the time period they served, as well as the main Starfleet category.
Since you are obviously an intelligent person, im sure that going back and taking note of what was done will be easy for you - Captain MKB 00:29, August 5, 2014 (UTC)

New comic articlesEdit

I just read your message on my talk page. I did not think i was forgetting anything except the New release stub. Plus i thought i should put down the limited information that was on Star trek website news. I'll try to find out what i've been doing wrong and correct it.--CC-1990 (talk) 20:47, August 7, 2014 (UTC)

I went ahead and created basic articles for each part of the Q Gambit using the CORRECT formatting. please use these as models. -- Captain MKB 07:37, August 9, 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry for putting the "useless gibberish" on the page Richard Castillo. I was only trying to be thorough. I fully understand your reason for removing the temporal displacement section on the page, and I will not re-add it or anything. - Goweegie2 (talk) 01:38, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Thoroughness is admirable, but it doesnt justify putting information in the wrong place. That part of the sidebar is solely there to explain people who have permanently traveled through time, not temporarily -- Captain MKB 01:53, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

DEFAULTSORT and apologyEdit

Hey Captain Mike, thank you for letting me know of this. I'm really sorry that we keep meeting up like this, really I am. Even though I've been using this site for a long time now, some things I eventually learn later on how to do (like communicating with you right now for example). I just thought those articles fit into those categories, and I want to help contribute so much. Incidentally, does the sorting just deal with characters that have a first and last name? If so, I will definitely try to do that in the future. If you were upset with anything that I did in the past, I sincerely apologize for my ignorance.--Humanoid21 (talk) 14:27, September 7, 2014 (UTC)


Special:Contributions/ These are all mine. Can I get credit for them now?

--LauraCC (talk) 16:38, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately, no. IP edits cannot be associated with a user. -- sulfur (talk) 17:38, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Mirror Universe races and culturesEdit

Sorry about that. I just thought that races from both the primary universe and the mirror universe were exactly the same (except for their circumstances) and that having two almost similar article descriptions of a race (who are biologically the same) in one category to be redundant. I assumed someone would someday make a primary universe Iyaaran article which would eliminate the need for the mirror universe Iyaaran article in the races and cultures category. My mistake.--Humanoid21 (talk) 13:56, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Well, i don't think we need "(mirror)" cultures articles in the first place. the whole things a wasted effort, as all species have been shown to be identical in the mirror universe, with no differences that would justify the second article. sure they have a different history, but how does that make them a different race? its just nonsense that you and other users are creating worthless throwaway articles. mirror Iyaarans are in fact Iyaarans, and its really idiotic to think we need two articles for that -- Captain MKB 02:44, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

I honestly agree, when you put it that way did does sound ridiculous to make two articles for the same thing when that info could be put in one article. That would save a lot of space. But I've never created a mirror universe article, and I did not create this specific article either. I was only following my gut on where it should go. Once again my apologies.--Humanoid21 (talk) 14:03, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

i apologize also, i didn't mean to take the accusatory tone. this one can probably just be moved as a quick fix, i think i did a similar fix to the Husnock or their planet the other day - Captain MKB 14:05, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

That's okay, I understand. It's such a pain when someone doesn't fix something in a proper way, and I've seen a lot of that happen on here. I just don't want to be considered one of "those" people. And I'm truly sorry if you were ever put off by anything I've done, just still going through a learning process. If you want, I could alert you or another person like Sulfur of any extreme change that an article needs in the future if it needs it. Good luck with your fixes and have a nice day.--Humanoid21 (talk) 14:33, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

oh no, just be mindful of situations the cause the removal of a category - its always better to err on the side of overcategorization because those can be sorted en masse as a fix. when you decategorize, its makes things drop out of sight from lists of articles that could be further fix. this of coure is exceptional to catching a definite miscategorization, if you get my meaning - Captain MKB 14:49, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

How do you add a category? I had an idea for "presumed deaths"....specifically Abaran made me think of it....But I see that my original thought that he is a 2259 death has been restored by someone else--LauraCC (talk) 15:41, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

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