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In 2164, Vemrim and Retifel Thamnos represented the First families during the meeting with Dular Garos, who sought their support for thwarting Rigel's admission into the United Federation of Planets. His family sent him mainly for his incompetence so he would be in their way for a while and so Garos paid little attention to him during the meeting. (ENT - Rise of the Federation novel: Tower of Babel)
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